An overall background “Why?” in The Lost Tower universe.

An overall background “Why?” in The Lost Tower universe. by Chatmandu

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This is a fascinating little essay and an interesting back story

to the "Lost Tower".

It certainly fills in some of the questions on the background of British Wizarding education ( why the less than wonderful curriculum in canon ) as well as a possible origin of the Order of the Phoenix.

I don't know if the timing of Phineas Nigellus works out as Headmaster of Hogwarts given the apparent life span of wizards but he's such a good choice for the "educational villain" role that I can see that it would be hard to resist using him.

Looking forward to the next TLT update.

parakletos's picture

All good stuff :-) BTW no

All good stuff :-)

BTW no one graduates from Hogwarts, at least according to the books. Its also an uncommon phrase to use in connection with leaving a UK educational establishment.

picky I know.....

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Great back story to the Lost

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Great back story to the Lost Tower saga. The political shenanigans and dealings in the Wizarding world fascinates me. I've been enjoying the story, but this background information really gives it a kick. Thanks for the link.

Genevra M Potter, though...talk about spoilers

Given that the story's on

Given that the story's on SIYE, though, is that really a spoiler?

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Quote: BTW no one graduates

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BTW no one graduates from Hogwarts, at least according to the books. Its also an uncommon phrase to use in connection with leaving a UK educational establishment.

Did I use the term "graduate" in that piece? Crud!
What is the right phrase? "Completed education/schooling"?

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How about Hogwarts' alumnus?

How about Hogwarts' alumnus? That should be safe.

- A good novel is an indivisible sum; every scene, sequence and passage of a good novel has to involve, contribute to and advance all three of its major attributes: theme, plot, characterization.
Ayn Rand - The Romantic Manifesto p. 74 (pb 93)

rachel's picture

Actually, the part about her

Actually, the part about her being head mistress. Ginny's a smart girl, but she is a jock. Well...maybe not in this story

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Ginny's a smart girl...

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Ginny's a smart girl, but she is a jock. Well...maybe not in this story

Her post-Hogwarts career in TLT is a bit different from canon. Possibly because I've personally thought Ginny was closest in aptitude and brain power to Bill.

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It could work...

Actually, the part about her being head mistress. Ginny's a smart girl, but she is a jock. Well...maybe not in this story

We have no idea when this is set. After her glittering career as first a Quidditch star then a Quidditch writer, what's to stop her stepping in to organise the chaos that is Hogwarts?

Face it, Dumbledore didn't exactly spend much time teaching during Harry's time there, did he...

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The job of Headmaster

Being a good headmaster is not the same as being a good teacher. headmasters are administrators. They need to facilitate the operation of the school and guide the goals of a school. For a post like Hogwarts, this would also be a very public position requiring juggling the politics of the Governors and the Ministry as well as gathering the best teachers to push the curriculum the Headmaster wishes to develop.

I have always found it odd that the Deputy Headmaster was also a teacher. I would also believe that position would be separate from the teaching staff. As well, I would think that the Heads of the Houses would not be teachers of the core courses, as that can be a problem. The Head of House needs to be a parental figure away from home, someone the students can come to and discuss their problems without feeling intimidated by the teacher student relationship.

Looking a the job this way, Ginny would be a good choice. She is smart, she is well known, is connected with a prominent figure at the Ministry and among the Wizarding world, has experience in the world and is respected and powerful. Those are all good qualities for the Headmistress.

- A good novel is an indivisible sum; every scene, sequence and passage of a good novel has to involve, contribute to and advance all three of its major attributes: theme, plot, characterization.
Ayn Rand - The Romantic Manifesto p. 74 (pb 93)

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Yes, you're right. Ginny

Yes, you're right. Ginny may have been a little jock, but she did end up being a journalist in canon. I can see her as a headmistress (not as a teacher though). Just can't see her as another grim Professer McGonagall, walking the halls of Hogwarts.

parakletos's picture

How about Hogwarts' alumnus? That should be safe.

ReallY?

I wouldn't have said so.

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The job of Headmaster

My dad was a deputy head and head as was my mum.

They both taught; sometimes because of a shortage of teachers, sometime because they wanted to. The Head at my school didn't teach but the deputy did. The head of School House - for those that boarded at school was the head of biology as well.

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I guess I would need an

I guess I would need an explanation of why you would not use alumnus based on the following definition:

From meriam webster online

Main Entry:
alum·nus
Pronunciation:
\ə-ˈləm-nəs\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural alum·ni
Etymology:
Latin, foster son, pupil, from alere to nourish — more at old
Date:
1645

1 : a person who has attended or has graduated from a particular school, college, or university

2 : a person who is a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate

- A good novel is an indivisible sum; every scene, sequence and passage of a good novel has to involve, contribute to and advance all three of its major attributes: theme, plot, characterization.
Ayn Rand - The Romantic Manifesto p. 74 (pb 93)

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Alumnus

I agree that is what it means.

Traditionally people have talked about be an Old Boy or Old Girl of a school or former pupil. Its just not a word that comes into common parlance.

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Must be a Yank thing then.

Must be a Yank thing then. We use alumni over here all the time when talking about college or high school,or at least it is used in the Mid West a great deal. It might be different with the Ivy League schools, but I know only a few people who went to an Ivy League school.

So, you would use the folowing format:

Peterson was an old boy of Hogwarts and tended to expect a hand-up from his former classmates. Unfortunately, Harry did not play favorites.

-Jonathan

- A good novel is an indivisible sum; every scene, sequence and passage of a good novel has to involve, contribute to and advance all three of its major attributes: theme, plot, characterization.
Ayn Rand - The Romantic Manifesto p. 74 (pb 93)

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That Yank thing....

'So, you would use the following format:

Peterson was an old boy of Hogwarts and tended to expect a hand-up from his former classmates. Unfortunately, Harry did not play favorites.'

You could change the last bit to read '... but Harry wasn't interested in the Old School Tie brigade and didn't play favourites'.

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That Yank thing...

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You could change the last bit to read '... but Harry wasn't interested in the Old School Tie brigade and didn't play favourites'.

Okay that has me thinking now. Would Hogwarts have a "school tie"? Ties were certainly not in vogue before 1692. All movie contamination aside, everyone in wizard Britain seems to wear robes. The school uniforms in canon are described as just black robes. I suppose a plain black tie would work. Throw in a pocket protector and the magicals are indistinguishable from the technicals. Hmm.. Where have I heard that before :-)

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Ties

Okay that has me thinking now. Would Hogwarts have a "school tie"?

Based on the books, no, but the phrase would still work. Another version could be the Old Boy network.

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The Old Boy network

Oh! You mean like Pure-blood Death Eaters? :-)

Very interesting & some very

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Very interesting & some very nice background to the whole story (that’s one thing I do enjoy about not only this story but also most of the others on this site is that the authors take the time to work out a back story to why everything that is happening in the story has a reason behind it & not just because the author want it to). As for Ginny becoming headmistress I can defentaly see this happening is as she is obvasly going to spend a lot of time with not only Harry but also Remus & therefore being subjected to a much more intense & more stimulating education experience & plus just because she headmistress doesn’t mean she has to change her personality just think a combination of Mcgonigall & the twins .

James

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Ginny in The Lost Tower series

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just think a combination of Mcgonigall & the twins

We really don't know Ginny's grades or study habits in canon, although it is a safe assumption that her first year academic record wasn't that great. I could be wrong but being possessed by a Dark Lord just doesn't seem conducive to good study habits. Anyway, Ginny tends to be linked with the twins (or as she thinks of them: 'the Twins') but I am going to link her to Bill. Percy is usually the cerebral Weasley in fanfiction, but Bill was also Headboy and also scored 12 "O" O.W.L. results. Plus he's, well he is cool! He is the brother Ginny will identify most with, a combination father and big brother.

I also wanted a really stupid reason to fight a war. How to educate children? This is a sick joke, right? Unfortunately in real life sick jokes tend to sweep up all sorts of social slights and prejudices until someone actually starts shooting. At that point no one remembers what the root cause driver was.
Of course the side that prevails in education reform also sets the agenda for the future of wizarding Britain. Perhaps that IS something worth fighting for...